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https://www.forum.ffxiscripting.com/viewtopic.php?t=255
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I bought the Memory ^^ hopefully this will allow me to use your programs.
I'm curious there PC guru, anything else I can upgrade on a Laptop?
I'm game to get this closer to the Recommended specs that Playonline suggests.
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Video card will always make the biggest impact on gamming.
I could build 2 systems both costing $800 and one using a $300 video card and the other using a $50 video card.
I then would devide the remaining money up amongst the other parts and even though I would spend the same on both computer the one with the $300 video card would walk all over the other one in every game out there.
Even if I used parts from the junk bin to build the rest of the machine, like a pentium III for example.
If you really want to get into computer gamming and see how nice the game can look and other games can look with setting like anti aliasing and anistropic filtering I would suggest buying some pc parts here and there until you have a full desktop pc.
Since you already have a laptop its not like you will have any downtime or anything
If you do decide to go that route just let me know and I could help you get up a blueprint of what to buy that fits within your budget.
I could build 2 systems both costing $800 and one using a $300 video card and the other using a $50 video card.
I then would devide the remaining money up amongst the other parts and even though I would spend the same on both computer the one with the $300 video card would walk all over the other one in every game out there.
Even if I used parts from the junk bin to build the rest of the machine, like a pentium III for example.
If you really want to get into computer gamming and see how nice the game can look and other games can look with setting like anti aliasing and anistropic filtering I would suggest buying some pc parts here and there until you have a full desktop pc.
Since you already have a laptop its not like you will have any downtime or anything
If you do decide to go that route just let me know and I could help you get up a blueprint of what to buy that fits within your budget.
It actually would be nice to have a system that was focused on gaming as is..
Laptop was really designed for school only, but hell sometimes a 4 hour lecture gets boring so wandering off into a game is something to do.. ^^
What's a good budget for a good gaming PC ( Desktop )
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I know when I got my g5 from apple.. I spent well into the 6 grand range.. which was not worth it as I didn't use half the crap the salesperson loaded me up with.. heck I use the Apple Studio Monitor that came with my powerbook for this laptop..
Laptop was really designed for school only, but hell sometimes a 4 hour lecture gets boring so wandering off into a game is something to do.. ^^
What's a good budget for a good gaming PC ( Desktop )
..
I know when I got my g5 from apple.. I spent well into the 6 grand range.. which was not worth it as I didn't use half the crap the salesperson loaded me up with.. heck I use the Apple Studio Monitor that came with my powerbook for this laptop..
Well I did a write up on a cheap budget pc buildup in this section.
If you are looking for something a lil better let me run you through what I would consider a good gamming pc that would rip through all the latest games including HL2 and DOOM3 and still be within a normal working mans budget.
---Video Card (cant be cheap here so we go for the 3rd best of the AGP flavor of cards)
-Gefore 6600GT $219.00 (ranges from $190-$240 for agp version. I got the MSI on the way from newegg but thats only because the cheaper and faster Gigabyte version was out of stock
at least the MSI comes with more games and VIVO )
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 150&depa=1
---Motherboard (This one is really up to you, just go with the Via KT600 for stability and reliability,they range from $50-$200. I like Gigabyte boards so I will link my board and a cheaper alternative)
-Gigabyte GA-7vt600-1394 $75.00 (my board)
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 197&depa=1
-Gigabyte GA-7vt600-L $47.00(cheaper version)
https://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/de ... L&REFID=PW
---CPU (Gonna need an Athlon XP to fill the socket and anything T-bred - Barton will do. Price range $70-$150 )
Here is a nice cheap Barton with 333fsb (there is also T-bred 2500+ with 266 fsb and 333 fsb. Barton is the best of the XP series and 400fsb is the fastest fsb in the xp lineup)
-2500+ 333fsb Barton $77.00
https://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductde ... cessors+PC
Here is my current Processor
-3200+ 400fsb Barton $147.00
https://www.onlinepcdeals.com/compatabil ... ct_ID=1952
---Memory (PC3200 is what we will need and its a good idea to not go totally cheap here because memory makes a big difference and if its cheap and incompatible then you will have nuthing but errors and bluescreens)
-PQI Power Series PC3200 512mb $65.83 x2 = $132.00
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 164&depa=1
My memory
-PQI Turbo Series PC3200 1gb Kit $170.00
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 151&depa=1
(Where you see platinum in the title its just the color of the heatspreaders, they sell Gold, Platinum, Mirror Black and Gunmetal)
(PQI Also sells even higher performance versions of the Turbo memory with Timming of 2-2-2-5 and so on. Here is just 1 stick of that memory
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 117&depa=1 Now thats some fast Memory)
---Hard Drive (IF you get the higher priced Gigabyte Board that I linked or any other board with SATA then you can get the faster SATA hard drives. If not then its good ol IDE. 80gb should be enough)
First up Sata Drive I have 2 of these in Raid 0
-Hitachi 80GB 7200RPM SATA 8mb cache $65.00
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 049&depa=1
Next is a standard IDE
-White Lable (aka no name brand) 80gb 7200rpm $50.00
https://3btech.net/whlamadate802.html
After that you just have stuff like a CD-rom, Case, Power Supply, Floppy Drive, CPU Cooler, and other misc cheap stuff that really just depends on what you like more then anything. I would estimate a total of $150 maybe more maybe less will be spent on all these things combined.
Last but not least is the monitor
17" is preferable and flat screen (not flat panel) is the way to go
I would say $80-$150 locally
So it looked like if you get all the cheapest stuff I mentioned here then you would be spending under $800 for everything
Not bad for a computer that will play all the newest games and probably cost $2k less then ur laptop
Ebay is also an "OK" place to try to get some of the stuff cheaper. I got my CPU for $10 less and my Mobo for $25 less on ebay, Both brand new Retail Mobo and OEM CPU.
I would never buy a used PC gear on ebay.
ALso stay away from video cards and Memory from ebay. You want a good warranty on these so buy them from Newegg if you can, just my preferences.
Building your own pc has always been the way to go.
Theres just something about making your friends alienware that they think is the best look like a total piece of shit when it comes to image quality and fps in a newer game like HL2,especially when they spent $1k+ more
Sure they might out perform you in a Spec View benchmark but who really cares ??? Just tell them to fuck off and go run some spread sheets while you immerse yourself into the beauty of the newest 3d games lol
If you are looking for something a lil better let me run you through what I would consider a good gamming pc that would rip through all the latest games including HL2 and DOOM3 and still be within a normal working mans budget.
---Video Card (cant be cheap here so we go for the 3rd best of the AGP flavor of cards)
-Gefore 6600GT $219.00 (ranges from $190-$240 for agp version. I got the MSI on the way from newegg but thats only because the cheaper and faster Gigabyte version was out of stock
at least the MSI comes with more games and VIVO )https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 150&depa=1
---Motherboard (This one is really up to you, just go with the Via KT600 for stability and reliability,they range from $50-$200. I like Gigabyte boards so I will link my board and a cheaper alternative)
-Gigabyte GA-7vt600-1394 $75.00 (my board)
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 197&depa=1
-Gigabyte GA-7vt600-L $47.00(cheaper version)
https://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/de ... L&REFID=PW
---CPU (Gonna need an Athlon XP to fill the socket and anything T-bred - Barton will do. Price range $70-$150 )
Here is a nice cheap Barton with 333fsb (there is also T-bred 2500+ with 266 fsb and 333 fsb. Barton is the best of the XP series and 400fsb is the fastest fsb in the xp lineup)
-2500+ 333fsb Barton $77.00
https://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductde ... cessors+PC
Here is my current Processor
-3200+ 400fsb Barton $147.00
https://www.onlinepcdeals.com/compatabil ... ct_ID=1952
---Memory (PC3200 is what we will need and its a good idea to not go totally cheap here because memory makes a big difference and if its cheap and incompatible then you will have nuthing but errors and bluescreens)
-PQI Power Series PC3200 512mb $65.83 x2 = $132.00
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 164&depa=1
My memory
-PQI Turbo Series PC3200 1gb Kit $170.00
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 151&depa=1
(Where you see platinum in the title its just the color of the heatspreaders, they sell Gold, Platinum, Mirror Black and Gunmetal)
(PQI Also sells even higher performance versions of the Turbo memory with Timming of 2-2-2-5 and so on. Here is just 1 stick of that memory
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 117&depa=1 Now thats some fast Memory)
---Hard Drive (IF you get the higher priced Gigabyte Board that I linked or any other board with SATA then you can get the faster SATA hard drives. If not then its good ol IDE. 80gb should be enough)
First up Sata Drive I have 2 of these in Raid 0
-Hitachi 80GB 7200RPM SATA 8mb cache $65.00
https://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 049&depa=1
Next is a standard IDE
-White Lable (aka no name brand) 80gb 7200rpm $50.00
https://3btech.net/whlamadate802.html
After that you just have stuff like a CD-rom, Case, Power Supply, Floppy Drive, CPU Cooler, and other misc cheap stuff that really just depends on what you like more then anything. I would estimate a total of $150 maybe more maybe less will be spent on all these things combined.
Last but not least is the monitor
17" is preferable and flat screen (not flat panel) is the way to go
I would say $80-$150 locally
So it looked like if you get all the cheapest stuff I mentioned here then you would be spending under $800 for everything
Not bad for a computer that will play all the newest games and probably cost $2k less then ur laptop
Ebay is also an "OK" place to try to get some of the stuff cheaper. I got my CPU for $10 less and my Mobo for $25 less on ebay, Both brand new Retail Mobo and OEM CPU.
I would never buy a used PC gear on ebay.
ALso stay away from video cards and Memory from ebay. You want a good warranty on these so buy them from Newegg if you can, just my preferences.
Building your own pc has always been the way to go.
Theres just something about making your friends alienware that they think is the best look like a total piece of shit when it comes to image quality and fps in a newer game like HL2,especially when they spent $1k+ more
Sure they might out perform you in a Spec View benchmark but who really cares ??? Just tell them to fuck off and go run some spread sheets while you immerse yourself into the beauty of the newest 3d games lol
I'm not too worried about going cheaper as much as getting a good product for good cost..
no use skimping on something when your basically 'getting what you paid for'
^^
Since I have laptop like you said, I can build slowly.. maybe have the pc built in a month..
no use skimping on something when your basically 'getting what you paid for'
^^
Since I have laptop like you said, I can build slowly.. maybe have the pc built in a month..
Well if you go for the more expensive mobo with sata then I would suggest getting 2 sata drives and running raid 0.
The drives will need to be identical so it would be best to buy them both at the same time from the same place.
This will give you an insane boost in load times and anything hard drive intensive.
I must say that I do question your pc building experience though since you dont already have a desktop pc, building a new pc and setting up raid can be a little tricky, especially with all the tweaking to get the performance out of all those parts that you paid extra for.
If in doubt I would call some local pc shops and see what they would charge to build it for you if you brought them all the parts.
If your close enough to me I would gladly do if for you at no charge as long as you paid S&H both ways.
I like building new computers
The drives will need to be identical so it would be best to buy them both at the same time from the same place.
This will give you an insane boost in load times and anything hard drive intensive.
I must say that I do question your pc building experience though since you dont already have a desktop pc, building a new pc and setting up raid can be a little tricky, especially with all the tweaking to get the performance out of all those parts that you paid extra for.
If in doubt I would call some local pc shops and see what they would charge to build it for you if you brought them all the parts.
If your close enough to me I would gladly do if for you at no charge as long as you paid S&H both ways.
I like building new computers
Oh there's no question about my pc building experience
I have none,
I was considering just paying someone to build one for me..
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I installed the GIG of RAM that I bought, was simple and easy..
My PC runs a hell of a lot faster .. but FFXI seems to run the same..
so going to try your software again , see if it continues to give me problems.
I have none,
I was considering just paying someone to build one for me..
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I installed the GIG of RAM that I bought, was simple and easy..
My PC runs a hell of a lot faster .. but FFXI seems to run the same..
so going to try your software again , see if it continues to give me problems.
Coo glad you got it in there and its all working good and stuff.
Now just click on your start menu, go into the control panel, then click on System and make sure it says you got 1gb of ram
Never hurts to double check just to be safe.
Your ffxi game is not going to be much better because it relies on video card more then anything.
Your video card is onboard which sux but it means it uses the system ram, this is why I said more ram is more then a must.
You can also jack up the performance of your system and onboard video quite alot by speeding up the ram timmings in the bios, as long as your laptop allows you to.
THe difference would be noticeable then, at least in 3dmark it would.
Now just click on your start menu, go into the control panel, then click on System and make sure it says you got 1gb of ram
Never hurts to double check just to be safe.
Your ffxi game is not going to be much better because it relies on video card more then anything.
Your video card is onboard which sux but it means it uses the system ram, this is why I said more ram is more then a must.
You can also jack up the performance of your system and onboard video quite alot by speeding up the ram timmings in the bios, as long as your laptop allows you to.
THe difference would be noticeable then, at least in 3dmark it would.
I looked up some more stats on my laptop
Video Card:
Model: RADEON IGP 340M
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too bad it's 'onboard' .. and can't be updated ^^
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I'm curious about this timming or whatever you said.. I tried to go into bios and do that however it's passworded.. which is odd cause I never set a password,
Video Card:
Model: RADEON IGP 340M
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too bad it's 'onboard' .. and can't be updated ^^
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I'm curious about this timming or whatever you said.. I tried to go into bios and do that however it's passworded.. which is odd cause I never set a password,
Yeah you just got pwned, lol just kidding.
Just find out where the bios reset jumper is and reset is.
From there check out tomshardware www.tomshardware.com
I remember seeing a big write up on how to tweak your ram and what all the settings mean, But thats if there even in your bios since it is a laptop.
Its kinda iffy.
Hey did you check out the new forum section for th HOT PC Contest ?
Just find out where the bios reset jumper is and reset is.
From there check out tomshardware www.tomshardware.com
I remember seeing a big write up on how to tweak your ram and what all the settings mean, But thats if there even in your bios since it is a laptop.
Its kinda iffy.
Hey did you check out the new forum section for th HOT PC Contest ?